Youtuber Sueing Onision (Madame) Accused of Doxxing & Art Theft

Youtuber Sueing Onision (Madame) Accused of Doxxing & Art Theft


welcome back and in today’s video we
will be looking into a situation involving a youtuber by the name of
madame a lot he does not remember she’s the one that is currently trying to sue
onision in small claims court several members of the community came to
me saying that she was daxing one of her fans as well as stealing artwork so
we’re gonna be looking into that in today’s episode of exploring youtubers
now if you’re unfamiliar with Madonna she is a youtuber with over 52,000
subscribers her inspiration for YouTube apparently is leafyishere if she says it
multiple times throughout her channel but also she is trying to sue an easy on
in small claims court if you’re just keeping up with that this video will be
in the description below so basically what I’m gonna do here is we’re gonna
try to lay it out and a nice and easy fashion that way you can get all of the
information I’m going to try to approach this in a neutral in the biased way it’s
what we’d like to do here on this channel everything that I’m talking
about will be linked in the description but below so you can come to you and
form your own opinions but we’re here today to talk about one of Madonna’s
fans a 15 year old on Instagram by the name of slimmers and apparently what’s
been going on is she is asking for help she posted about what happened let’s
look into that her BIOS is trying to stay strong I’m
guessing this is a very trying thing this is not okay nor loud this is a
risky post for me but at least me no choice all I wanted was credit I never
wanted to hate nor anger her but she took it in a completely different way a
youtuber said I should make a video about it which I mind I’ve never done it
so it’s new for me but I might have to contact other youtubers to help or
possibly make my account private after it I wouldn’t be this sad or upset if
she wasn’t still using my work for her art and keep posting on her story
talking dirty about me oh I’m gonna bring this up and I know I
know it’s a bad thing to bring up but I’m 15 and Madonna is 18 and 19 years
old so of course I’m gonna be unprofessional the fact we had the whole
situation fixed with credit is beyond me and I don’t know why she’s using it as
evidences me failing at something even though we talked it out I don’t know if
this will attract attention but I do know it will tire me emotionally since
this is a 50k youtuber I’m dealing with all I’m asking is please please help me
so Ralph the bat you can tell this person’s in emotional distress now I am
gonna go through the call-out post as well as the response that Madame may put
in on her Instagram this is Madame a that’s a channel there I also known as
Ashley youtuber that’s 18 19 years old I lately had a rough ride with a Dru fan
art that she loved and she wanted to contact me she really liked my work and
asked if I had a paypal so I could draw her steals steals are persona making
different expressions that people use in videos and I said no I don’t but I will
draw them for you if you only credit me we called and I told her if she’s gonna
credit me she has to credit me in the description when using my works as a
thumbnail that was our deal and she had to credit me in the video eventually so
you see right here these are the two stills that are being used the 50,000
subscribers thumbnail and they’re responding to biggest haters those two
pieces right there are slot sluts lommers artwork Slammers goes on to post
a conversation between madam a in her Madonna is mannequin and the slimmers is
absolute freakin mad that we are unclear if is actually an absolute freaking mad
time Slimers is asking credit in the
description of the videos Madonna says yeah that’s the plan I said I got you
boom done just DM me because I stopped reading comments at the 48 hours thank
you that’s all I wanted not hating but it was just a thing I would like not
angry just letting you know so you can see slammers demonstrating that she’s
not upset but Madonna is upset saying yeah of course but it’s kind of wack you
wouldn’t just DM me after we’ve had phone calls and stuff yeesh
by the off-chance I stopped reading comments like what would you expect and
this been commented today after I wouldn’t have seen it I just got weirded
out you wouldn’t just tell me directly and does seem kind of weird and
off-putting that they didn’t reach out directly because she did have this
direct contact so I’m not sure why Slammers did not do that she said it was
because Minami took time in responding so I’m not sure maybe she had hit her up
on all the social platforms and then attempted a comment in the video let’s
keep reading I was gonna feature you at my J station video since I knew that
video would get big AF and just I don’t know plug your insta but I see the
credit in the description my about me is more beneficial because this long-term
so I will add you to that right now also my friend who’s a streamer won
commission from you see I don’t understand why it’s like Madonna does
want this person to feel bad so she’s gonna tell her all the stuff that she
was gonna do but most likely is not gonna do it now it’s unclear if there
was ever any credit in the description but like I said I did reach out to
Madonna I’ve yet to get a response but stay tuned we’ll see what she says
slammers posts a shot saying that they did wrap things up we handled things
completely good I apologize and she did too the situation was worked out
remember that and this happened so she shows the
conversation here and it really does not look like things were worked out the
last thing that Madonna is shown to say is yes and she told people to come after
me and my comments on social media about crediting you you even though I
literally agreed on giving you a verbal shoutout
then we discussed long-term crediting I don’t want to work with you anymore
that doesn’t feel like ending things on good terms so to speak I do want to
point out that via the screenshots there was it was the group agreed to do a
different type of shout out so it looks like there’s a miscommunication between
both we’re gonna call it a miscommunication
looks like Slammers goes on to talking to Madonna after madamme said that she
did not want to talk to her anymore and of course madam Isis literally stopped
talking to me it in slammers is ignoring this the saying do not talk to me and
continues to talk so it doesn’t like it ended on good terms which I understand
that there’s billions people in the world not everybody’s gonna get along
with everybody so this type of thing is gonna happen
however this is where it gets a little weird this right here appears to be a
screenshot of comments on Madonna’s videos somebody asks her to credit the
artist that drew your thumbnail she made a post on her Instagram slammers to
which Madonna says oh yeah the complimentary credit I gave her on my
about me descriptions until she decided to send no lives like you after me
complimentary cuz she didn’t have an effing PayPal when I asked her for
prices yeah actually go F yourself as leaf he would say so right here we
already know that there wasn’t any credit given in descriptions that’s what
the whole thing was about so you can see here aslam earners post a
screenshot of madam a’s instagram story where Madonna is continuing to talk
about it I guess she’s really affected by this which makes really no sense
since the only thing that she has to do is just not use the other person’s
artwork and take it out off the channel rather than continuing to drag it out it
seems like egos involved here and Madonna is not wanting to admit any any
type of fault no matter what I’m not saying that slumbers is not at fault to
it looks like both probably are at fault and there’s definitely looks like a
miscommunication but for Madonna to keep on dragging it out like I said it does
appear to be ego Madonna did post on her Instagram story her version of the
events let’s go over that I commissioned her for stills but she expressed she
didn’t have a paypal but wanted to accept the Commission I couldn’t accept
that from her without doing something in return so I asked her if I could show
off her Instagram page verbally in my je station interview she agreed and two
weeks later I got the steals I made a video without the steals recently I only
used it for a thumbnail but it wasn’t in the video and she decided to comment
publicly about it on the video comments she has my number personal discord
account etc we’ve had phone calls and that were hours long and her last text
was her saying she thought that thumbnail was adorable so I was appalled
when she didn’t come to me about credit and commented so I told her that me and
other youtubers usually stop reading comments at some point and had I not
read hers nothing would have been done and I was upset at the unprofessionalism
so she thanked me and was really happy about it we agreed on canceling the
verbal shout out and to just give her long-term credit instead which I was
happy with but then she still sent people after me and acted like I had
never given her credit in the first place I’d had enough of her own
professionalism and blocked her on discord she didn’t harassed me a little
on Instagram and I kept asking her to leave me alone don’t talk to me etc and
she spammed me with messages until I got upset angry she finally blocked me but
when she did she started fabricating stories about me that never happened so
I felt that removing the credit was right because it hurts my soul to give
credit to someone that would fabricate stories about me now I’m gonna go ahead
and say at the point where you decide not to give credit anymore it really
doesn’t matter you do need to take the down we’ll talk more about that in just
a second after that she lied about her age publicly she told me and even my
friends in discord VC that she goes or is going to college it’s really
disturbing and I think she’s a compulsive liar my ex has that so I have
experience with people who suffer with that and I definitely think she is due
to the constant lies and fabrications in her life so that’s it I don’t have any
bad feelings towards her I just hope that she gets help and doesn’t lie about
other public figures again I hope this helps you understand the situation why I
can’t give that credit back I’m so happy to get yeah I completely understand that
now if you take this a story and you compare it to her story there are things
that don’t add up and I’m gonna leave it to you to decide so let me know what you
think about it below but madama here’s perspective I’m trying to be mean but
put your ego to the side for a second it looks real bad I I get it you feel upset
about the whole situation it really looks like you’re harassing this
fifteen-year-old fan because you’re the person of influence the power dynamic is
on your side and then what’s this about exposing this person’s number she shared
the number publicly on her story she’s saying apparently it’s fake but try
anyways she’s openly inviting people to harass you Slimers says good because I
got that phone number from a free calling app I literally just changed it
five seconds try again madam hmm this is madam a story and as you can read it
says apparently it’s a fake number so don’t worry about it I forgot to mention
they lied and told me they didn’t have a number but then while making the steals
gave me a number and asked her like oh did you get one since when and they
avoided my question so hard and changed the topic and I thought that was really
really weird so please don’t worry it’s fake you can try it anyway if you’d like
it’s fake just like the compulsive liar okay now if it’s a fake number
I’ll post why give it out that’s that’s an attempt and it doesn’t
look good anytime you share somebody else’s number whether you think it’s
this or that it isn’t attempted Docs I think you really need to realign the
perspective here and just look at what it looks like what it really looks like
and this is all the public can see is that you’ve attempted to steal another
artists work without crediting them you’ve harassed them and you attempted
the docs then there’s three reasons that a lot of people get cancelled so again
this is the only thing the public can see so my advice is stop using the art
or give credit to the art you can’t just not do that because you’re upset with
somebody because they may or may not be lying it’s really not a good look but
that being said I don’t want you guys to be pushed in any direction by anything
that I’ve said Here I am putting everything in the description so you can
better form your own opinions so just let me know what you think because as
interesting as cysts always something’s more interest to me that’s right you
guessed it I don’t know gee thanks rich good leave you creative and eight
written responses in the comment box there’s always brothers and sisters I
will see you in the next video well it just looks like a miscommunication to me
but it does look like madam aid got upset took it way too far blew it way
too much out of proportion she’s the person of influence here I think she
handled it wrongly wrongly is it a word but maybe it’ll get resolved like I said
I did reach out to Madonna to get her side more in depth but compare the
stories tell me what you think other than that I woke up way too late today I
got to fix my sleeping schedule it’s getting rough out here but this is my
eighth video in a row so I’m gonna go ahead and call it I’m back to daily
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100 thoughts on “Youtuber Sueing Onision (Madame) Accused of Doxxing & Art Theft

  1. I even went back to check and make sure before I uploaded and yes she's still using the art. Even if the other girl was harassing her than you still don't use the art without crediting, it sets up a bad look for the art community and I have no idea what was up with the attempted dox but even worse I just called these people by the wrong name the entire video lol 😍💜 Q&A on Instagram! road to 15k followers! – https://www.instagram.com/the.repzilla/

  2. As much as I loved this video(very good job), there's a new video up by Emerald that shares some new screenshots from madame's discord that is worth a watch.

  3. I agree 4 most part, except about the "miscommunication." The influencer just assumed the young artist would let it go, treating them like they were just a silly fan girl & she's way too important to worry about crediting some kid. Madame knew exactly what she was doing. I also think the artist, Slimurs, knew that this must be the case after Madame didn't credit her as they'd discussed. I believe Slimurs contacted her like she did to have a record & be able to hold Madame responsible for her actions. I mean, if they were talking so personally as the influencer is saying, Madame knew exactly how Slimurs wanted to be credited & how important their art is to them.

  4. She literally says in one her videos that she was upset for 'setting a trend' and people not giving her credit. (She paid Onision's patreon and made a video about that, acted like that was the MOST creative thing in the world. People did the same as her, she got a little angry.)

    Oh the karma.

  5. As an artist who is struggling to Sell my work and get Commission this starting with "she offered to pay me and I said no" makes me upset. I can't imagine refusing someone who Sees value in my work on the desire for exposure, it gives the requesting party the wrong impression and makes it hard for me to believe the artist on the alleged "scummy" actions of the other party.

  6. I just think it’s purely obvious why the artist didn’t contact her on her personal social media outlets. Most artists don’t like personal confrontation, it’s anxiety inducing. And with a public figure nonetheless, it’s going to be more nerve wracking.

  7. As an artist..you need to watch who you do artwork for and you also have to understand that anything you put out in the world can and will get taken and misused. You will find people trying to use it for free etc. It's best to get money upfront. Make sure they will give credit. Cover your butt when you do work.

  8. While I understand Madame's position i agree with you Rep, she needs to take down the art or give credit as well as in the future be aware that her platform can create a very hostile environment for others, even if in Madame's eyes she deserves the negative attention it doesn't make it right. Clearly this person is not very stable, given all the lying and public drama, its not very smart to egg people like this on as they might go ahead and do something stupid.

  9. Madame is rather full of herself and she dramatizes things even more too. If she can no longer work with the artist and provide the credit agreed upon, she needs to remove the work. It really is just THAT SIMPLE. It doesn't matter how much that artist hurt your feelings by not treating you like the royalty you wanted to be treated as or suddenly didn't have the experience to meet the standard of professionalism you wanted them to meet. Speaking of which, I find it shady that you USED that inexperienced nature of the artist to gain work and only have to pay with giving credit. You also very OBVIOUSLY use that to your advantage when you switch the terms around and try to guilt trip her (yes.. I spotted that. I'm sure everyone with a brain did). Then all the sudden the inexperience became a problem for you and you want to stop doing anything discussed yet want to keep her work up. AND you take shots at her too from the start of it. Then she becomes a pathological liar. If she is the one twisting shit…. what has she gained by doing so? Yet YOU… are still using her friggin art. Dude! I'd like to try to remain central on it, but I CAN'T. Madame is in the wrong here. And it is a very shitty wrong, considering she is the one who entered that deal someone the artist looked up to and as someone in a position to guide and nurture a career and talent but instead tried to use and abuse it.
    And then to go on and bully her with the doxxing crap. That is just gross.

  10. I don’t think either were super professional. Take down the art and then you don’t need to give credit. It’s weird

  11. Madame never did give credit to her that's the reason she kept "pestering" her when she was saying "leave me alone". It definitely is a miscommunication between both of them.

    But if madame had just put the credit on or took the art down then the whole issue would've been done with.

  12. Madame needs to chill and take responsibility… yeah they both had some blame but when Madame started with the doxx and art theft she lost the argument and got way more blame + the fact that she is the one with more influence.. so yeah sorry Madame but you need to bite the bullet and apologize, give credit for the art you stole and just stop.

    PS. LOVE the colour of your hair.. I liked it when it was darker but even better now!

  13. A teenager of 15 needs a parents permission to have a PayPal account ffs!!!

    Stealing, tracing etc another person's art without their permission is a huge issue within the art community. It's like anything you use what someone has put their blood, sweat & tears into with sleepless nights thrown into the mix it's almost like fraud.
    If you do art always have a special watermark or something else on all of your art no matter the platforms.
    Yes, my child's an amazing artist who's too scared to share online due to trolls, CyberBullies etc which upsets me as they could have their own comic & manga book series. Independent people have also stated the same.

    IMO label ALL of your work no matter what as it's yours & if people want to use It etc that's when you start talking🕊

  14. A super sayien stuping anther super ssyien that's the only reason madam looks good because shes in fact the frist super sayien female

  15. A super sayien stuping anther super ssyien that's the only reason madam looks good because shes in fact the frist super sayien girl ever

  16. A blound girl was looking at me my friend said she is looking at you like she wants to I said that because I got a 8 inch roller

  17. Uh, no. Slimurs is not at fault. Madame deserves what she's gotten and I hope she'll be arrested for what she has done. She is an insensitive child abuser.

  18. It doesn't matter how pissy someone is they still have to credit…all she wanted was a link to her Insta if that female was 18 she could have easily filed a lawsuit

  19. I've been watching your videos for a while now and it makes me extremely happy to see you covering this topic. Madame was at fault the very moment she failed to give credit. Thank you for bringing attention to this recent situation as it highlights a prevalent issue for digital artists.

  20. Tbh I had only started recently watching Madame and I felt so bad for her when I watched her hospital lawsuit video and then this happens. As an artist I sympathize with not getting credit for the work you did and everything. This situation just sucks in general because Madame is really taking this so far when this could’ve been done and over with. Remove the art and don’t use it again simple as that.

  21. I am a fan of slimurs and was also a fan of madame….but I cannot support an adult doxxing a child and not crediting their art. Madame is an adult and should know better, she is acting irrational, immature and unprofessional whist Slimurs has been nothing but respectful towards her. Madame needs to grow up maturity wise because if a 15yr old is acting more responsible in the situation it shows a lot of problems with who Madame is as a person. Slimurs wasn’t perfect in the situation and could’ve approached the situation in a better way but they’re still a child and we can’t expect them to have adult level of maturity or professional behaviour as we’d expect from Madame as she’s an adult. Madame in my eyes took advantage of a child’s friendliness, passion for art and their trust. Absolutely disgusting on madame’s part……

  22. She got butthurt over something small(sure she could have messaged her first but in the end who cares), and took it to a whole new level it didn't need to go to. Maybe next time don't hire a teenager to do work for you and put adult expectations of professionalism on them? How she's treating this 15 year old is so fucking childish and it makes her look so bad. She's on a high horse. And no matter how pissed you are at an artist, just give them credit. She need to get over her own ego.

  23. There was an artist just like her who had to prove that was her art cause her husband stole it she can prove it to the court and fuck over oision

  24. Maybe the 15 year old should take Madame to small claims court. Oh yes, I forgot small claims courts have no jurisdiction on copyright laws which can only be judged in federal courts, not small claims.

  25. The argument aside, credit for the art is deserved, regardless. Especially in a case of art that was essentially done for free. Credit does not count as payment. Ever.

  26. Watched 1 video and already had a bad vibe from her. This isn’t surprising she’s an entitled brat and the dms from her were just nasty.

  27. Honestly, you can still be upset with someone and still give credit. I remember in her Onision video she made about his discord where I made a comment saying she didn't give credit her old Avatar on youtube. I checked all around her videos, about, and other sites too. She is not the first artist to not be credited by Madame.

  28. They’re both being extremely unprofessional lmao. It’s sad Bc one of them is an adult and has the ability (or should have) to be the bigger person and just shut up and give credit or take down the art

  29. The artist is a child. Like it or not, 15 years old is a child, of course she wouldn’t have a PayPal. This is a legal adult, with a large platform, who thought she could pull one over on a kid. She should be ashamed of herself.

  30. Madame is in the wrong. Period. End of story. Sorry but Slimurs didn't really do anything wrong.
    She didn't credit an artist for FREE art then threw a tantrum, threatening and doxing her
    It doesn't matter if Slimurs reached out in a comment. Madame didn't credit her in the first place like she promised to. Slimurs wasn't even rude in her comment.
    Madame is being disgustingly unprofessional, especially in the video she just posted. Claiming she's being "attacked by furries with fabrications"
    Not showing ANY proof for her side
    Complaining FREE art took time to produce
    And just being an out right bully

    I don't usually get involved in internet drama but as a fellow artist, I'm appalled by her behavior.
    Her attitude of "complimentary credit" baffles me. It's not complimentary to fucking credit your artist. It's MANDATORY.

  31. As an artist, I would never comment publicly if I have direct contact with the other person. I know fans blow everything out of proportions and start playing detectives. I do believe the artist was very unprofessional. I repeat I'm a professional artist but I can see that both sides were wrong. But overall it is not appropriate to use art that is not yours, even if you intended to pay but the deal was not possible. You don't own that art, just don't use it. Remove the art instead of the credit. Then the doxxing is unacceptable, it is never okay.

  32. The artist should not of had to gone and asked for credit link and shout out. This Madame should of given it and posted it upon upload and use of work and not have to make the artist reach out for it after repeated use. One could assume with all the blatant are misuse and theft we see done this artist could have rightfully thought they had been scammed and posted in comments section. The fact the person keep using the images without proper credit linked and the doxing really says all there is to know.

  33. I'm a fan of Madame and seeing all this shit going on makes me rlly confused. I'm subbed to artists who talk about stuff and 2 out of the many are planning to talk about this situation and it's honestly upsetting. If further shit stirs up, I'm unsubbing. Very disappointing

  34. this is so shocking to me?? I always found madame to be a little weird/immature but i didn't think it would be to this extent?? it's not HARD AT ALL to credit someone for their art, whether you use their art in itself or for inspo.

  35. If you use someones art, you have to give credit. It isnt up to you unless the artist has explicitly given you rights via contract, etc. Period.

    Then to drag the person and have the nerve to diagnose their mental health based on nothing… Who does this person think they are?

    If you dont wanna credit them because it doesnt sit well or whatever bogus nonsense she made up, then dont use their art. Commission someone else to make new art for you.

    What an idiot.

  36. Would it be possible to not do that jerking/flicking of the images in videos? It triggered a seizure and massive flare for me. I know you have others with epilepsy and chronic illnesses who watch so I'd really hate for others to have this issue as well. I love your videos and watch them to help get me through the day while in pain and very sick. I also always share them with others so I really hope this doesn't come across offensively. Besides the triggering seizures and other neurological conditions it makes it almost impossible to see what we are supposed to be looking at or following along with. I'm not sure how else to suggest this to you as I don't use Twitter, so hopefully you scan the comments occasionally ❤️

  37. she misunderstand the situation and just have 1000000 confident that she is right and wont change her mindset about the misunderstanding, in madame perspective she saw the attack when she already credit the artist while in reality slimurs actually upload about the "not giving credit" before she actually talk it out with slimurs and then after she gave the credit one of slimurs friend jist knkw about the news and commwnted on madame video for a gentle reminder and im just making a scene here but probably slimurs friend at the moment didnt check the description box or slimurs friend have commented on the video earlier but madame just saw it and think its some kind of new comment so she think that slimurs tell her friend to attack madame behind her back while the reality in reality its just a misunderstanding. she even make slimurs upload a some kind of a paper that have an information about the sexual abuse she receive a year ago by her father which madame think is a lie and say that she lied all about the abuse so she feel cornered and have to upload it to give a actual proof that she axtually been abused

  38. I'm sure she could find someone to draw her new art and wouldn't lie, lol this sounds like an ego thing, just be a person and take the art down or credit them even though you don't like them. She should be supportive of the artist anyway, there are so many great artists out there

  39. Its clear that Madame lied, because she only showed screens from the convo that made her look bad, and the artist showed everything. While it might have been quick for the artist to make this ig story, she never trashed her and talked to her and the situation was resolved but bc madame was / is childish and offended bc of this one story, and a """" few comments""""" she supposedly received (which I haven't seen as of before the drama escalated – sO) so yeah she's in the wrong and she needs to credit her or take the art down, cause this is not ok, if she intended to pay or not. She's acting like an Onision

  40. Honestly, they both are in the wrong. I understand that the artist is 15, but when you get into the art and someone contacts you wanting to use it, you must be professional. Contact some artists that do commissions, ask them how they deal with art theft and people not crediting them, etc. Put thoughts into your actions. Madame was fine at first, but the angrier she got, the more she let her ego get to her, making her deal with the situation in not the best way. She should’ve just put new thumbnails up, taking the art out, and the situation be over and done with. I believe all of this happened because of miscommunication and the fact these two individuals seem that they don’t think straight when they’re upset, which is okay! It happens!

  41. She and Onision would make a great couple for being shitty people with annoying "edgy" personalities
    ….
    Oh wait, she's not young enough for Onision.

  42. Madame is now using a users sexual assault paper to make more money as well as stealing that users art we need to spread the word more so that people can support the artist

  43. Madame is pathetic. You have to give people credit. She talks about unprofessional but what do you expect when your dealing with a child !? Apparently Slimer is 15.

  44. I don't get why she acted like that because the girl wanted credit. Lol because of this if someone stole my art Id stay quiet to avoid being bullied.

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