Riders Of The Lost Art – Cycling Skills That Are Dying Out | The GCN Show Ep. 297

Riders Of The Lost Art – Cycling Skills That Are Dying Out | The GCN Show Ep. 297


– [Together] From Land’s
End to John O’ Groates, welcome to the GCN Show. – Hello, and welcome to the GCN Show, brought to you by our friends at Wiggle. – Oh sorry, yeah. – Yeah, anyway, this week as you can see, we’re out in Alta Badia in the Dolomites. The reason Ollie’s having a little rest is ’cause yesterday he
cycled 340 kilometers, with 9000 meters of
climbing, utterly bonkers. – [Ollie] It was cold
at the small Everest. – Most people, I think,
Ollie, will call it bonkers. Anyway, coming up this week we’re talking about the
lost arts of cycling. Are there skills that
are starting to die out? We also have news of the
world’s fastest-ever cyclist. Someone has just taken that crown. And we also have much more besides. You gonna need like a caffeine gel or something before we get going? – I never want to see another
caffeine gel ever again. – All right, maybe we’ll find an espresso. (energetic electronic music) – I don’t know about you, Si,
but I’d say there’s certainly worse places to sit and talk about bikes. – You might be right, Ollie. Now this week in the world of cycling, we learned just prior to the
world championships, actually, who the fastest cyclist
in the world really is. Step forward, Denise Mueller-Korenek, who has just ridden an
astonishing 183.9 miles per hour. – That is some seriously
impressive motor pacing. – Oh yeah. – More on that later, but
this week we also learned that Simon Yates can indeed survive the final week of a grand tour, as he rode incredibly
well in the final week to smash the Vuelta and
seal his overall victory. – You made quick work of your
apple strudel there, Ollie. Now Dan goes in-depth into just how Simon Yates won this year’s Vuelta, aside from just being the
strongest rider in the race. But one thing he didn’t talk about which we were mulling over was just how his team, Mitchelton-Scott, played some really canny team
tactics in order to help him. So for example, they’d
poke with breakaways, forcing Movistar, their
arch-rivals, to chase. And then indeed, being happy
to actually let the lead of the whole race go to
another team entirely, to relinquish them temporarily
of leadership duty. It’s quite a kind of old-school swashbuckling style of racing, isn’t it, that actually we don’t see all that much in grand tours anymore. – It got us thinking,
are these kind of tactics at risk of dying out? And if they are, then what
are the other cycling skills that are also at risk of becoming extinct? – Well, sticking with
racing for just one minute, there’s a lot of talk
about how power meters change the way riders race. – [Ollie] Yeah, well Sky. – Yeah, changed the way that Sky race, and therefore by extension,
a lot of other riders. So what would happen if you actually banned power meters from racing? Would there be riders who would still be able to ride purely on feel? How comfortable would a team be letting a rider attack in the mountains if you didn’t know categorically that you were already riding at 400 watts? Would you be more inclined to chase, knowing that there might be a chance that would be able to sustain it, rather than looking at your power meter and going, not a chance in hell. No way, he’s coming back to me. – Yeah well, speaking personally, I feel that I’ve become completely reliant on a power meter as a pacing tool. And I used to run a fair bit and did a bit of
triathlon back in the day. – Just dropped that bombshell
casually in there, Ollie. – And you learn.
– I’m just going over here. – How to pace, you learn what
a five-minute mile feels like or a 1:15 400 meters. And I just feel that that’s something that you really are in danger of losing if you use a power meter,
as I certainly have. But don’t worry, I’m past
my tri-curious days now. – Well, I’m glad to hear that. For many of you out there, you won’t have a power meter, of course. So technically this won’t
apply to you as yet. But given that it might be happening at the very top tiers
of professional cycling, is it therefore gonna filter down eventually and affect all of us? – Next up we have another
equipment-relate one. So pedaling really slowly up long climbs or any climb, to be honest. So back in the day, riders
like Jacques Anquetil and Eddy Merckx were famed for grinding and pedaling really slowly
up monstrous mountains, ’cause they often had big chain sets on and really small cassettes as well. – 42-21 was kind of the
common lowest gear of the day. And ironically, then actually that became the equivalent of a
compact during the ’90s. And if you don’t believe us,
just watch some archive footage of Marco Pantani racing,
and you will clearly see. But nowadays 34 chain rings
and 32-tooth cassettes are commonplace amongst normal riders and pro cyclists alike,
allowing everyone to spin merrily up even the steepest of climbs. – Yeah, but personally I’m
not a big fan of grinding. – Oh you’re not, I like grinding. – Yeah?
– Not like that. But as in I genuinely like the feeling of running out of gears
and then really having to lean on it to get over a climb. Admittedly, my local roads
have relatively short climbs. I’d come unstuck out here, for example. So I have nice, easy gears on. But I kind of worry that
maybe if someone spent their whole time cycling in
really, really easy gears, that maybe they’re
missing out on something. I don’t know what you’d be missing out on, but it feels like it might be important. – Another skill that’s
definitely on the way out and potentially being
lost is route finding, remembering where you’re
going, and looking at maps. GPS devices are becoming
increasingly popular, and they make it super
easy to just follow a route which you can download from
something like Strava or Komoot. And then that means you don’t really have to remember where you
are or where you’re going. – No, and you know what, I think that’s kind of
a good thing, actually. Don’t get me wrong, I
absolutely love looking at maps. And I also think it’s very good to know where you are at all times so you don’t blindly follow your GPS route into the middle of a lake like you occasionally read
about people in cars do. But it’s gotta be said,
there is nothing better than turning up in a new area and effortlessly following an amazing ride without getting lost and without stopping at every single junction
to consult your route. – Yeah, so what he’s saying is that the art of
route-finding is becoming lost. But you don’t think it’s a bad thing. – [Simon] I will not mourn the loss of the art of route-finding. – But one thing I will say
to that is that a compass and a map can still
work without batteries. – True, maps could get
wet and disintegrate. – Not if you laminate it.
– When was the last time you rode with a compass? – Not if you laminate them. I always ride with a
compass, all the time. – On your phone. Lastly, one that old
and miserable cyclists always seem to bang on about
is bunch riding skills. – I feel really strongly about this. – Same. – Well, what are you trying to say? Riding in a group is one of
the best bits of cycling. But it is something that needs
to be taught and learned. And I think it takes awhile to communicate the importance of it to newer cyclists. – Yeah, true. It should not just be seen
as old and miserable cyclists being a little bit grumpy, like me. But as you say, actually
it’s as a valuable a skill almost as being able to go round a corner or climb out of the saddle. And furthermore, learning those
skills should be enjoyable, shouldn’t it?
– Yeah. – It shouldn’t just be
someone shouting at you on the chain gang when
you’re making a mistake. – Which is how I learned.
– Which is how I learned. – But we are gonna be making some videos. We’re gonna be shooting
them tomorrow, actually, on the finer points of group riding. So stay tuned on the
channel and keep an eye out for those coming out in the future. – Yeah hopefully, Ollie,
your legs will have recovered a little bit.
– I hope so. – Emma said she’s getting
pretty hot to ride. Yeah, but anyway, let
us know what you think are the dying arts of cycling. Are there other things that we’ve missed that you think are on the way out? And furthermore, how should we communicate to people newer to the sport and actually get them
to learn these skills that perhaps otherwise they might not get a chance to appreciate? Get involved in the comments section. Now, it seems unfair, I think, to talk about how tired
and grumpy Ollie is today without actually giving you guys a bit of an insight into
what went on yesterday. – Yeah, so I rode up a climb
called the Passo di Valparola, which is the big monster behind us. It’s the biggest mountain
in the universe, basically. And I had to ride up it 12 times in order to reach the
cumulative height of Everest. – So you might say it’s
1/12th the height of Everest. – Yeah. – Despite being the biggest
mountain in the universe. – Yeah, it felt like the biggest
mountain in the universe. – That’s a technicality. Well yeah, to be fair, it’s pretty epic. – Thanks, cue vlog segment, I think. – Yeah, cue vlog. – Nervous, really nervous. More nervous than 99.9% of
germs in a Domestos factory. (laid back electronic music) (triumphant music)
(drum reverberating) – It’s now time for Cycling Shorts. – We’ll begin Cycling
Shorts with that incredible land speed record from
Denise Mueller-Korenek. So to do this, she rode
behind a custom drag car. And she actually also
rode this custom KHS bike which kind of basically
looks like a motorbike, but without a motor. – Yeah, it’s got motorbike
tires, for a start. Apparently bike tires
aren’t really designed to handle 183.9 miles per hour. It’s also got steering dampening to stop her wobbling
around all over the place. Then finally you can see that
the wheel base on that bike is like double the length
of a normal bicycle. There’s no coincidence that it looks like a chopper motorbike. She gets towed up to 100 miles per hour and then released inside that
shelter behind the drag car. And then she’s gotta
put out over 700 watts for well over a minute in
order to be able to reach the kind of speeds that she was reaching. – Seriously impressive.
– Oh my god, yeah. – But what really terrified me about this when I first read about it in Wired was that if she dropped too
far back behind the drag car, then a big wave of turbulence can hit her and potentially knock her off. So at 150, well, 130 miles per hour, this is equivalent to, say, a
small child giving you a push. But then as soon as you get up to–
– You can deal with that. – Yeah, 150 miles an hour, it’s like an NBA player
giving you a full-on shove. And then at 183.9 miles
per hour it’s, well– – It doesn’t bear thinking
about, really, does it? – No.
– Terrifying. – Now, hats off, 100% to Denise. That is a remarkable
effort, a remarkable record. Hats off too, if you’ll
excuse the seamless segue, to Giorgia Bronzini, who rounded
out her tremendous career, in fact, including two world titles, among 80 other victories,
with one final win on Sunday. – She took the sprint
in the Madrid Classic, ahead of Sarah Roy and Charlotte Becker, putting them on the lower
steps of the podium. The overall was won by Ellen van Dijk, thanks to her Sunweb team taking victory in the team time trial on the first stage. – Yeah, now staying in Spain, obviously, we mentioned at the beginning of the show about Simon Yates clinching
that Vuelta Espana. You gotta say it caps
off a remarkable year for British cycling,
given that there have been three British winners of all
three grand tours this year, and three different riders, at that. – Yeah, so stat time. According to Cafe Roubaix, this has only happened
twice before in history. In 1964, France did it
with Jacques Anquetil, Anquetil, and Raymond Poulidor. In 2008, Spain achieved
it with Alberto Contador, Carlos Sastre, and Contador. – Yeah, so technically then, this is actually a first, isn’t it? The first time one country has won all three grand tours with
three different riders. – I think we’ve just invented
our own GCN stat there. – Well, that doesn’t happen very often. – No, pretty good. Well also, I wonder if
it’s happened before that what the record
is for the same country winning consecutive grand
tours on the bounce. ‘Cause GB are currently on fire. – I’ll tell you what, the reason that stat isn’t available in our fingertips is probably ’cause no one
has ever cared before. Because other countries
have been so successful, it’s only ’cause Great
Britain has been so rubbish for so long that actually now
it seems quite remarkable. And it is remarkable,
absolutely remarkable. Anyway, a little side story
from this year’s Vuelta, gossipy little side story, was Fabio Aru having a really nasty crash. But then he can be heard in the aftermath swearing at his bike. (bleeping)
(speaking foreign language) – Yeah, you don’t dis your bike when it’s a Colnago, do you? Apparently Aru actually phoned up the legendary bike builder,
Ernesto Colnago himself, and apologized over the phone,
according to Tutto Bici Web. – That would be quite
an awkward conversation, if you can imagine, wouldn’t it? – Yeah, but to be honest, I
feel a bit sorry for Aru though. He’s had a terrible year,
in terms of results. And it appeared that he wasn’t actually swearing at the bike, but it
was more a mechanic’s error, in that he actually
managed to jump the chain off the 11-tooth sprocket
so that it got jammed in between the 11-tooth and the frame. And that’s what caused the problems. – Yeah, the old limit screw. We should probably tell the UAE Emirates. – They should watch our video on how to adjust a rear derailleur. – They probably should, shouldn’t they? Lastly, away from racing now. And we touched on the issues
surrounding autonomous cars and the way that they’re
trying to program them to account for cyclists’ behavior. Well, a good little
while ago now, actually. And so we were a little bit saddened to read this week that
there seems to still be quite a long way to go
before consensus is reached. – Yeah, so apparently the big question that the United Nations is debating, yes, the United Nations. I thought they did wars
and famines and stuff, but apparently they do this as well. Is whether or not cars should brake or swerve in order to avoid cyclists. – Crikey. – Now, this is slightly terrifying, but only because you don’t ever consider these judgments in the same situation. – Yeah, that’s true, actually. Even more terrifying, I’d guess, would be to actually see
inside someone’s head at the point where they’re having to make the decision to swerve or brake. And that means cyclists
as well as car drivers. Can you imagine it? Swerve, brake, swerve, brake, swerve, brake, swerve,
brake, swerve, brake, brake! Yeah, in a way I’d almost rather it was handled by a computer. (laid back electronic music) – It’s now time to announce
the very lucky winner of our amazing Oman giveaway. – [Simon] Oh yes, shall I
give you a drum roll, Ollie? – Yeah, go for it, mate.
(hands drumming) The winner is Josh Gilbertson
from Great Britain. – Josh, congratulations. There is still a question,
Ollie, remaining here. So Josh obviously is the winner
of the amazing Oman trip, the Haute Route Oman, entry and everything that goes with it, plus, of
course, the 3T Strada bike. It was a big giveaway, wasn’t it?
– Amazing prize. – But remember, one person
gets to go with Josh. So the question is, who is Josh gonna take to ride the Haute Route in Oman? – Just putting it out there, I am available on those dates, Josh. – I believe I’m free as well, actually. So effectively, you could select from one of the amazingly talented bike riders on offer in front of you. No–
– Who are they then? – To be fair, actually, he could probably have asked Emma nicely. She’s already there.
– Yeah, probably. – She’d bleed him out up every mountain and on the flat bits. Anyway, huge congratulations. That is gonna be wicked. Keep us posted on how it goes and who you pick to go with you. – It’s now time for
our weekly inspiration, where you submit your
inspirational cycling photos for a chance to win 50, 75, or 100 pounds in vouchers from our friends at Wiggle. – That is cool, isn’t it? Right, without further ado, let us get straight on to our podium. In third place, winning 50
pounds in Wiggle vouchers, Is Robin Moore. So this was sent in by audiophile021, and it’s Robin Moore’s photograph of the iconic road that
goes around the cape just south of Cape Town,
Simon’s Town, in fact, which seems like a place
that I should probably go. I think I’ve been there,
actually, thinking about it. – [Ollie] I’ve never been
there, it’s on my list. And this photo has propelled
it even higher up my list. – Yeah, that’s fantastic, isn’t it? And not only that, it’s
another slightly damp photo. So to try and not have constantly
beautiful sunny photos. He said, “What a ride it turned out to be. “Sunshine, rain, hail, truly epic.” So yeah, fantastic, and
congratulations to you. Right, who is in second place then, Ollie? – So in second place we have Sam, who’s taken this picture
on the Col D’Aubisque, which is one of my, in fact, I’m gonna say it’s my favorite climb in the Pyrenees. It’s beautiful. Him and his mate Michael have been going bikepacking during their gap year, and they’ve been going
throughout the Pyrenees, and they took this picture. And he’s got his bike as
well, his Wilier Zero.7. – It looks like he’s
experienced bikepacking, ’cause he’s got his mug
dangling on the outside, I think I can see. So he’s obviously graduated
from the school of bikepacking. Anyway, 75 quid to you, congratulations. You’ll probably need to buy some stuff, if you’ve been bikepacking
around the Pyrenees. I can guess you’ve probably
worn some stuff out. Right anyway, in first
place we’ve got this, which is a wicked photo, isn’t it? Can you tell us the
location, ’cause my accent, I don’t think will cut the mustard. – [Ollie] Yeah, so this has
been taken at Wast Water in the Lake District.
– There you go. – Which is an area very well known to me, and it is one of my favorite
places in the entire world. But yeah, it’s just an
absolutely stunning location. – [Simon] Yeah, so this
is sent in by Niels. He’s saying that he his hoping to get his girlfriend into cycling. She didn’t need much persuasion, however, to join a ride along
the stunning Wast Water. – Let’s just hope he didn’t
take her up Hard Knock Pass, ’cause that would put her off.
– Is that a euphemism or what? – It’s not a euphemism, it’s
a real climb, look it up. – Right, okay, good stuff. Anyway, there we go. Thank you very much, three
deserving winners there. If you want to get involved
and submit something to GCN’s weekly inspiration for next week, remember you can just use the hashtag #gcninspiration on Instagram, or send it straight to
us, using our uploader, the link to which is in the
description beneath this video. (laid back electronic music) – Some bad news for Tech of the Week now. As if you needed
reminding, for many of us, winter is coming, and with it, shorter days and longer nights,
as well as the crap weather. But have no fear, there is a
bright spot on the horizon. New lights, including
these ones from CatEye. We actually talked about
them briefly at EUROBIKE, but they now have officially
launched it onto the market. So these are the CatEye Sync lights. They are smart lights, and so they can be connected together, synced, and also synced with your
phone as well via an app. You can get up to seven,
apparently, all synced up together. – Yeah, and it’s really
easy to turn them on or off. In fact, you can turn them all on or off with just a single
button press on the app, which is really easy. You can also control them individually, so you can set flashing
modes and things like that. And you can also see the
individual battery life of each light as well,
which is really clever. – Displayed on your phone, great for idiots like me.
– And me. – Now in addition, they
have daytime running modes and they can act as brake lights. So they can sense that you’re decelerating and glow brighter, which is pretty cool. – It’s clever. – Yeah, now another thing that caught my attention this week,
not technically new-new but it’s one of those problems,
I think, for urban cyclists is actually where do you
park your bike securely, particularly if you live
in a flat or whatever. Anyway, one company that might
have an answer is Cyc-lok. – Yeah, Cyc-lok are making
secure bike parking solutions. And they’re available to businesses, so that you can have safe, secure bike parking at your place of work. But they’re also available
in public spaces as well. And they’re pretty cool. So they’re weatherproof, they can have E-bike charging
ports inside them as well, and you can actually pay
to use them via an app, and you can book them in advance. – That’s pretty cool, isn’t it? Anything that can help to
improve cycling infrastructure in cities is a good thing in my book. The bit that I particularly like is they said that you can get 12 of these secure boxes
on one car parking space, which is mega, isn’t it? I might try and campaign for my street, not that I need 12, but you know, between me and the other residents. I need 11. (drill whirring) – It’s now time for Hack
forward slash Bodge. – Of the week. First up we’ve got this
from Jasmijn Muller, who is an ultra-endurance athlete and was attempting a pretty
serious ultra-endurance record. Anyway, she attached
these lights to her shoes. Remember from that daytime
running lights video that moving lights are even
better than static lights. Anyway, these are the little clip on LEDs that you can fit on the
back of a Limar helmet, and she stuck them to her shoes. – [Ollie] Yeah, onto
the dials of her shoes. – [Simon] That’s cool, isn’t it? – That is cool.
– That is a hack. – [Ollie] That’s a
definite hack for me, that. – Yeah, nice one there, Jasmijn. Right, next up. – Yeah, we have Taufik Abidin. And he said he saw this when
volunteering in a workshop. Triangle bars on an old steel bike, combining the brake bar and aero bar. – [Simon] That is remarkable, isn’t it? What do you do with the front bit, apart from to hit people with it? – [Ollie] I don’t know where you hold it. I don’t know where you put your hands. – [Simon] How have they done it? I’m calling bodge.
– That is a bodge. – [Simon] Without knowing
any more information, I’m calling bodge.
– I think it’s a bodge. – Right, much like this next one, now, as loath as I am to say that there is a place for a top tube bag, when this is when you do to your top tube, I’d say probably the top tube bag is the lesser of two evils. There’s 13 gels, apparently, on there. This was spotted at the
transition at an Ironman. – [Ollie] Yeah. – [Simon] That’s a lot of
gels, isn’t it, for 113 miles. – [Ollie] I mean, there’s
a number of things annoying me here, that
are grinding my gears. – [Simon] Go on. – [Ollie] Firstly, that’s
not aero at all, is it, having all those there. – [Simon] No, a lot of
turbulence coming off those. – [Ollie] Yeah, and secondly, it’s just, well, it just looks horrendous. – [Simon] Yeah, also you
might get a bit of chafage. You have some gels–
– Sharp wrappers. – [Simon] If they rub on your
knees it can get quite sharp. – That’s a bodge, bodge.
– Yeah, so ill-thought out. – That was sent in by George. And anyway, thank you, George,
for sending that one in. And yeah, I think that
probably is a bodge. Maybe a couple on there, that’s a hack. More than two, it’s a bodge. Right, this last one, this
was sent in by Josh Bennett. And this is grade A hack, I love this. It’s a video, we’ll speed
up the first little bit. But then how cool is that for
packing your cycling gear. Amazing.
– Yeah, that is neat. – Yeah, there we go.
– Hack. – If you want to get involved with GCN Hack forward slash Bodge for next week, remember you can just
use the hashtag #gcnhack on social media or once
again, the uploader. (laid back electronic music) – It’s now time for the
caption competition. – Oh yeah.
– Yeah. – I’m looking forward to this one. – My caption last week,
I was really proud of it. What’s the caption this
week that’s the winner? – The winner, so this was the photograph. The one that by common consensus was the most popular out of
all thousand or so comments was this one from Lloyd Ball. So congratulations to you. Me waiting for Ollie to come
up with a decent caption. (cymbals clanging) Absolutely perfect, congratulations there. Genius.
– I don’t get it. – Okay anyway, Lloyd, congratulations. You get yourself a GCN
Camelbak water bottle, which we have lugged all the way up here to this wondrous viewpoint. Anyway, given that caption, I think maybe I should tackle this week. Here’s your photo.
– Okay. – You ready?
– Yes. – [Ollie] That’s a a photo of Albasini and a wheel.
– It is indeed. – [Ollie] Okay, what’s your caption? – [Simon] Can pro cyclists
maintain their own bikes? Not on this evidence, as Albasini grapples with what to do with his front wheel. – So what’s your caption then? – That was it. There was a GCN video about can pros maintain their own bikes, and so it was like a semi-in-joke that some of our viewers will get. – Oh, okay. – If you want to have a go,
think you can beat that one, then just pop your caption in the comments section down below. It’s probably ’cause you’re
a bit tired, mate, still. – Yeah. (laid back electronic music) Comment of the week now, and the comment that we’ve selected is from Colin Thompson, who wrote in response to the
picture in Hack or Bodge of the little stone in the derailleur, “Does a stone in the derailleur
make it a gravel bike?” That’s pretty funny.
– Genius. – Yeah, it was good.
– That’s absolutely genius. Nice one there, Colin. Yeah, amazing, quite a contentious show last week, actually, wasn’t it. That obviously provoked a lot of debate as to whether road bikes are
better than gravel bikes. Of course, there’s no better,
because they’re different. But anyway, it was good to
air some points about that. We did ask you for your opinions. Do you want who know who thinks road bikes are better than gravel bikes? 76% of people think that road bikes are better than gravel
bikes, so there you go. It’s probably not as skewed
as I thought it was gonna be. A lot of support building
for gravel bikes there. Now, there was also one other comment that particularly jumped out to me. This was under Chris Opie’s video about skills to learn whilst waiting for your mates in the car park, which is a stroke of genius
as well, that can be said. Zak Swan wrote, “Who is the new
wheelie king, Chris or Dan?” I think what Zak meant to write is who is wheelie the king, Chris or Dan? (cymbal crashing) – I think we should see what
Travolta thinks about that. – Yeah. (funky music) (upbeat rock music) – Brace yourselves, it’s Extreme Corner. – Oh man, that is a super cool
animation there, isn’t it? Tyson Ibele there created that, using his own particle
simulation tool for 3ds Max. – I think hopefully now we’ve seen that, we don’t actually ever
have to see it for real. – No, that is very true, actually. Although Red Hook Crit Milan is coming up and that tends to be
what happens, actually, when you race with no brakes. – Yeah, don’t say that, mate. Me and James are going there
at the end of the month. – Yeah, you and James are getting there at the end of the month. Right, well there you go. We’ve got a couple of
important notices for you all. Firstly, next week we have the first GCN live Zwift race coming up. So if you want to take part, make sure you register your interest. It’s on the 25th of
September, seven p.m. UK time, so by my reckoning, most of the world should be able to race that, probably. If you’re up early in
Australia, no, hang on a minute. Oh sod it, you probably
will be able to enter. Anyway, get involved. That should be super, super cool. Lloydie’s commentating. It’s gonna be streamed
live on GCN, mega-exciting. And then secondly, we’ve also got this, which has just hit the GCN shop. Talk us through it, Ollie. – This is the new GCN
winter jacket from ASOS. And it’s just got loads of
awesome features in there. My favorite thing though is this amazing fabric
they’ve got on the inside. I mean, you can look at that and just see how good quality it is. But it basically offers
loads of insulation and breathability, but
without having huge volume. It’s just great. – It’s like insulating Smarties
or Minstrels, isn’t it? – It’s great, yeah.
– Yeah, very cool. Anyway, so that is now
available in the shop. That is us now, officially signing out from Club Moritzino in Val di Ila, high above the Alta Badia Valley. Tell you what, I’m not
sure we’re gonna top this for locations for awhile, are we? – Can we do next week’s show
at Club Moritzino as well? – Hang on a minute, no. No we can’t, unfortunately,
no, we’ve gotta get home. Anyway, thank you very
much for joining us. Give us a big thumbs up
if you have enjoyed it. And if you wanted to watch another video, then if you haven’t seen it already, we investigated the
rather sensitive subject of whether cycling can
impact men’s sexual health. So that one is definitely worth a watch. – I’m gonna go to bed now. – You go to bed, mate. Don’t worry.
– Thanks, mate.

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  1. 18:50 They are called "smart lights" but I think it is smarter to buy a conventional light which does not need a smartphone to work – a on-off switch, a battery indicator LED, a mode button, that's all a bicycle light needs. We need intelligent innovations but please not those that are simply not thought through at second glance.

  2. Ollie’s suffer face is just so relatable. Whenever the Brick took on a beastly hill his suffer face was more epic and inspiring (in a type 2 way), but Ollie’s is just me when I’m getting beyond myself. Not dead, just regretting the route/not stopping for an extra water stop et al. Chapeau Ollie!

  3. Seeing Jasymin’s shoe light hack. Seriously don’t understand why there aren’t overshoes with built in lights like that to get the whole moving light is more visible thing.

  4. 5:20 You're missing out on wondering whether or not you're going to be able to keep going; I sorta miss that dread when hitting the steep parts of climbs on my old bike. Now I have a top of the line bike and just spin up the climbs that used to terrify me. (Granted, I am also getting fitter).

  5. #caption: You put the front wheel in… You take the front wheel out… You put your front wheel in, and you shake it all about…

  6. If you don’t have a power meter, how are you ever going to know what 300W feels like? If you don’t have a running watch, how do you know what a 3:30min/km pace feels like?

  7. The handlebar bodge on #gcnhack sent in by @taufikabidin looks very similar to the triathlon areobar made by Profile in the late 1980’s. They were used in the Hawaii Ironman by leading triathletes back in the day.

  8. Pff! I've been packing my cycling kit like that for as long as I've been cycling. Had I known that anybody thought it was a hack, I would have submitted it years ago.

  9. In some aspects, riding a bike behind a drafting wall is like saying my everyday ride is as fast as the earth flies around the sun, somehow.

  10. The triangular bars in Hack/Bodge are a one piece Profile For Speed triathlon aero bar.  Scott also made a one piece design called the DH.  They were popular with triathletes before Greg LeMond and the 7-11 team used the clip on versions.  The rubber pads on the tops were the elbow rests.  It would be a hack in 1987.

  11. Um. Am I gifted for being able to ride a fraction of you guys but knowing exactly where my limits are. Sure its nice to see numbers but all I really need is my cadence, speed and grade. Heart rate or wattage is fine for guidance but grossly and at a macro level, they are not really needed.

    At a micro level, Sky uses it to win seconds and thus win the TDF.

  12. How do you teach race conditions when someone buzzes your wheel and you have to correctly react). These are the things you can talk about all day but to actually gain that needed 'keep calm and carry away from the buzz but not over correct' is really on via blood and practice.

  13. The sad reality is that you cannot predict the future. So did the cyclist just not pay attention to the right place and now they are just jamming on the breaks and they are able to stop?

    Same thing with cars. If an adjacent car is not paying attention and starts moving over INTO your lane, do you move into oncoming traffic or take the gentle bump and hope the human element reacts in this equation (naturally two AI driving together, this would not happen apart from extreme mechanical failures).

    Or you are driving on a one way road and someone makes the corner right in front of you, taking up the road equally, you will collide. Do you slam on your brakes and hope that gives you enough time? Do you dodge left or right because they may have over shot so much that passing on their outside might be safer.

    An AI's response time should be fast enough to calculate the BEST route (disregarding all elements). Often instant breaking is the best choice but it could also detect breaking the centre soft divide and making road rule exceptions. Especially in the ideal world where any and all cars are AI driven, it would command other vehicles to give it special emergency space.

  14. Marsupial attacks are a menace and they are possibly linked to an ancient curse. In March this year I hit a Wombat whilst riding CX, the little buggers run in front of bikes on purpose. That's when the curse started. Shortly after I twisted my ankle playing squash followed by broken ribs from a car vs bike commute mishap. Phew I thought, bad things come in threes so I'm all good now. But wait there's more. In June I fell off my new motorcycle on the way home from passing my test due to a wet road and slippery oil patch. Then a month later I fell whilst snowboarding and in an attempt to protect the broken ribs I dislocated my shoulder and fractured my left glenoid. That must be it I thought but I've not even got to the steak knives yet. After doing some Matt Hayman style zwifting I got back outside on my bike a few weeks ago, hit a pothole on my first ride and destroyed my rear carbon rim. Ok I thought, this is getting silly. My latest mishap was being hit by a car 3 weeks ago whilst riding my motorcycle leaving me unbroken but with a very brusied ankle, a memory foam shin and unable to walk much for a couple of weeks. Whilst recovering at home with said ankle elevated, a water pipe in our house leaked and a ceiling collapsed. So, curse of the wombat or am I just unlucky?! Help me GCN, you're my only hope!

  15. You asked whether this was the first time that riders from one country have won 5 grand tours in a row.
    I'm afraid to say that it isn't. Italians won both the Giro and the tour in both 1924 (Enrici & Bottecchia) & 1925 (Binda & Bottecchia) & also the Giro in 1926 (Brunero), giving them 5 in a row (this was before the Vuelta ever started). Better than that, Frenchmen won the first 6 Tours de France from 1903 to 1908 (Garin, Cornet, Trousselier, Pottier & Petit-Breton (who was French, and not a little Briton) twice. Since it was the only grand tour at the time, then that was 6 grand tours in a row.
    Since 1955, when there have been 3 grand tours each year, no country had previously won 5 in a row. Plenty have dominated for a few years, for example from the Tour of 1962 to the tour of 1964, Frenchmen (Anquetil & Poulidor) won 6 out of the 7 tours, with runs of 2 & 4.
    From the '69 tour to the '74 tour, Belgians (mostly Merckx) won 11 out of 16, with runs of 3 & 4 tours in a row. Lastly, from the '81 tour to the '85 tour, Frenchmen (mostly Hinault) won 9 out of 13 grand tours

  16. You asked whether this was the first time that riders from one country have won 5 grand tours in a row.
    I'm afraid to say that it isn't. Italians won both the Giro and the tour in both 1924 (Enrici & Bottecchia) & 1925 (Binda & Bottecchia) & also the Giro in 1926 (Brunero), giving them 5 in a row (this was before the Vuelta ever started). Better than that, Frenchmen won the first 6 Tours de France from 1903 to 1908 (Garin, Cornet, Trousselier, Pottier & Petit-Breton (who was French, and not a little Briton) twice. Since it was the only grand tour at the time, then that was 6 grand tours in a row.
    Since 1955, when there have been 3 grand tours each year, no country had previously won 5 in a row. Plenty have dominated for a few years, for example from the Tour of 1962 to the tour of 1964, Frenchmen (Anquetil & Poulidor) won 6 out of the 7 tours, with runs of 2 & 4.
    From the '69 tour to the '74 tour, Belgians (mostly Merckx) won 11 out of 16, with runs of 3 & 4 tours in a row. Lastly, from the '81 tour to the '85 tour, Frenchmen (mostly Hinault) won 9 out of 13 grand tours

  17. Honestly? You really want to wreck your knees by constant grinding? I'm off. Not missing it at all.
    Group riding? Massivelly overrated. All my best rides were solo or with friiend or two.
    Route finding is a survival skill. If you can't make it stick to the roads, otherwise it is you are irresposible git that potentially might endanger other people that will be trying to rescue you from your misserry – Mountain Rescue e.g.
    I.

  18. Being towed to 100mph and then peddling for 1 minute?  Kind of like being towed up the Col de Tourmalet to the last kilometer and then sprinting to 'victory.'  Or having a trout placed on your hook for you and you reel in your 'catch.' Give me a break. As for the tire caption: 'If I hold this just right I bet I could be on GCN's caption contest . .  .'

  19. I'm much more fearful of an unpredictable human driver than an autonomous vehicle. The most common cyclist-vehicle accidents are the hook and the cross, an autonomous vehicle doesn't need a headcheck to know you're there.

  20. Question on pronunciation of a place name; I grew up in Lancashire and never heard "Wastwater" in the Lake District pronounced "Wassst Water"……rather, "Wahst Water". Also, 12 secure bike spots per car spot? I'm there!!!!!

  21. Suggested caption on pro mechanical incompetence….."What's the dark grey grippy thing that goes around the outside"

  22. Talking about dying arts, as in most things I feel you should learn the proper, possibly old skool way of doing things before getting stuck into the new, maybe easier way.

  23. English is not my first language but isn't a "dragster" a car specially made for drag racing a 1/4 mile or whatever distance is now raced in
    a given class after Scott Kalitta death? Wouldn't that rather be a "streamline car" or, as I have seen in other places, a "custom made pacing car" with no special name? I know they said "drag car" and a lot of other thing, mine is just a genuine question not a criticism.

  24. Group riding skills are disappearing, more and more each year:
    http://cyclelifestylemagazine.blogspot.com/2014/03/ride-like-pro-group-riding-skills.html

  25. I would say that digital maps help you learn more roads, because they allow you to go to places where you've never been with confidence, and know that you'll have a way back. That is certainly what I've found in my personal experience. Just make sure you've downloaded them in case there's no reception! Of course, if you use them in places that you frequent, then yes, they do act as training wheels, which prevent you from learning.

  26. Map an compass? I guess sometimes after compass become mass used device some grumpy old dude was sitting in the middle of nowhere complaining about lost art of navigating by the stars and by the sun.

  27. The Endurance roadies would benefit from cadence training as low 40 to 130+ for the purpose of training neuromuscular system.

  28. Many riders have lost the skill to just ride for the sake of riding, of getting away. So many are so obsessed with technology or performance or how they look.
    They forgot to just have fun. Ive been riding a bike on and off roads for more than 50 years. Every time I roll down my driveway I still get the same sense of adventure and freedom that I did when I first began to ride as a child. Ive seen that look in my childs eyes and my riding partners. Once I lose that feeling I may be ready to die!

  29. Used to see quite a few of the triangle aero bars back in the day here in Australia. People would particularly put them on MTBs they were using as commuters and as the occasional triathlon bike. Obviously this was back in the early days of triathlons.

  30. I guarantee that if cyclists hit every car within arm's distance with something hard, like a pump, drivers and automatic cars would definitely change form.

  31. handling terrain without suspension, or managing traction with smaller tires offroad. something that makes cyclocross so excellent to gain skills with for a person familiar with the new mtn bikes

  32. As a Climber, training for my first Triathlon and therefor getting more and more into biking, i love these episodes in Alta Badia. Learning cool things about biking, while checking out possible climbs. Perfect symbiosis

  33. Lost Art: Dowtube non-indexed shifting. Downshifting 4, not 3 or 5, sprockets in the rear without skipping, and trimming in less than 1 second.

  34. Most of the bikes are being stolen by just a few people, the cops could go to the extraordinary lengths of say, stake out a few of the theft hotspots. Install GPS into a few bait bikes. The owners could install GPS into their own bikes. If you can microchip a pet, why couldn't you chip a bike?

  35. That is a bullshit record for fastest bicycle speed…drafting off of a car. It is a record for fastest draft. It would take guts to do, but still…gimme a break.

  36. I don't care for group riding…it cramps my style.
    Makes me feel like I'm in a herd…and herds always produce dickheads who think they are the leader of the herd.
    I'm a Solitary Cyclist and it's going to stay that way.)

  37. For the wheel one I got this caption-
    Me deciding if the bike I got is better than the bike I found online a week later

  38. Extreme filtering at speed in the city touching cars, burning through red lights being a centimetre away from death

  39. Oddly enough I'm not even a road cyclist and i thoroughly enjoy your content. It's like the Great British Baking Bake Show I don't really bake but i'll watch 5 episodes back to back.

  40. Building your own bespoke bike…….you have frame, wheels and components Taking some time over it improves the pleasure of it have always found. Remember it will be YOUR bike even if there are others exactly the same but you have done it yourself.

  41. Good god, Ollie, you da MAN. I completely understand (and utterly empathize with) how absolutely baked you look. Funny what it does to the brain, init? Almost 50 years ago, in my early 20's grinding my way through medical school, I rode a double century two consecutive years. I was in good condition considering the intensity of my other commitments, but nowhere near the fitness a sane person would normally have in the bank for such a task. It wasn't the pain and bone weary exhaustion that dogged me for 3 days, it was the mental fog that got to me. My brain was frickin' fuckaseed. It also lasted about 3 days. Ah, good times. Real good times.

    Si's comments on the dying art of riding by map jarred some memories. I began backpacking in the late 1950's with my dad, getting Dad Time while he murdered Rainbow Trout. In the 60's we did a series of trips through what was then considered the most remote country in the lower 48. At the time of my first trip through this particular canyon, it was estimated that no more than 10 non-Indians had ever been there. We never took watches with us, and cell phones and GPS were Dick Tracy fantasy (Google "Dick Tracy wrist telephone"). God forbid you get hurt, or appendicitis. I can't put into words what it feels like to be that disconnected and REALLY self-sufficient, where almost no one has ever been. I last had that feeling in 1965. Today the Pacific Crest trail runs like a freeway down that canyon. We're losing something with our insistence on ubiquitous connection. It's bad for our souls, somehow, and that's why I never use GPS, or take my watch or phone into the backcountry. And bike computers — I gave them up in the 1990's. Power meters? I have an internal meter, with only 3 outputs — (1) Kickin' it, (2) They see me rollin' (3) WTF? Whose MF idea was…? I always try to stay at or under #2.

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