‘Queen & Slim’ and ‘Get Out’ Star Daniel Kaluuya on Art Creating Change | NowThis

‘Queen & Slim’ and ‘Get Out’ Star Daniel Kaluuya on Art Creating Change | NowThis


– You’re a Black man that killed a cop and then took his gun. – I’m not a criminal. – You are now. Daniel Kaluuya, I have a question. ‘Queen & Slim’ has drawn a few comparisons to Bonnie and Clyde. The only difference being here that they only become infamous criminals by daring to defend themselves. Can you speak a bit
about the intentionality of mirroring their journey
after actual criminals? – What I find interesting is the projection upon them. And that’s usually to do with the criminalization of Black people. And so, Do you know what I’m trying to say? And, that journey starts there. But, actually, I understand because people kind of
love that kind of story, in the film and out of the film. The Bonnie and Clyde, the romance of that. But, it’s actually, I would see it closer
to Thelma and Louise, narratively speaking, in terms of beats, and what they go through. – Many of the Black people
that Queen and Slim encounter have come to revere them as heroes, but there are a few who aren’t as thrilled with what they’ve done. Why was that dichotomy important? – Because it shows there’s
an array of perspectives within the community. There’s a nuance, and even the people that
are on the same side they have different reasons why they’re on that same side. I think it was really important for Lena to kind of show all the whole spectrum of Black life and Black perspective. – Yeah, I think they spend a lot of the movie rejecting that title as well. Like, they don’t,
especially your character, he doesn’t want to be seen as a hero. He’s just trying to
get back to his family. – I mean, I’ve been in a similar situation when there’s stuff projected upon you as there this kind of like, you’ve done this. It’s like he doesn’t believe he’s brave. He doesn’t believe he’s brave. He just didn’t want to die. – I just want to go home, and I wanna see my family. – And like the fact
that not wanting to die is, like, some aspiration or noble trait in a Black person. Ya know what I’m saying? It’s like it’s very, now what does that say about society and the context that we’re
living in at the moment. – Lena Waithe has called
this film protest art, and Melina Matsoukas
has kind of echoed that by saying that, “It’s a film that defines Black love “as a revolutionary act.” What’s it like to hear that and know that you’re a part of it? – Try and not, like, focus
on the knowledge of that. Do you know what I’m trying to say it’s, especially when filming it. I’m playing a guy. – Did you think we were gonna have sex? – Nah. (chuckles) – That’s the fascinating thing about them, because I don’t
think they become icons, when they’re in the room with each other. They just humans that have, had the blessed opportunity
to find a connection. You know what I’m trying to say? And love that connection. So, in terms of me, like, I try and, I understand it has that reach and has that potential but, I can’t really think
of it that way because, it’s just like, this is
something I want to see, and it’s a story I want to tell. And, if you see it that way, it changes how you approach things. – But do you believe that art has the power to create real social change? – Honestly? – Yes. – (laughs)
– Always (laughs) – My thing about art, is that I think what we do gives hope to the people that are
actually on the front line. Because what real change is is on a very local level. Which I mean is making sure that family gets housed, or you help with, like, I don’t know, food if that family’s not got
food at Thanksgiving, or that homeless person
this, that, and the other. And sometimes as well it’s about escapism and feeling like in this film, I win. In this film, I think differently, I make different decisions. And giving people that opportunity to do that for two, three hours. And in terms of creating real change, a man said it was like, about James Brown, “I’m
Black and I’m Proud.” This is what he said about it. You know what I’m trying to say? You know what I’m saying? I would never assume that
I’m creating real change with the stuff I do, ’cause I don’t, I understand why people say that, I do understand why people say that, but,

One thought on “‘Queen & Slim’ and ‘Get Out’ Star Daniel Kaluuya on Art Creating Change | NowThis

  1. I love him. I wish he would stop looking up at the ceiling before answering every question. Its very distracting. I can’t wait to see this movie though. 😊

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