Pool Lesson | When To Use Spin And Draw

Pool Lesson | When To Use Spin And Draw

In this lesson I will show you a very interesting thing that really changed my whole game. This lesson deals with spin and draw shots to get position. As an example, I set up the most popular shot in pool that you already know from one of my other lessons. The link is (as always) at the end of the video. So this is the shot. We got a little bit of an angle – maybe a 30 degree angle. How do we play the shot? Well, the first option is to play it with low – hit the rail somewhere. This area right here is always okay, and we get position for this ten ball. Another option is to hit it with low right – just a little supporting English. Yeah, we hit the rail again – a little more up table, but not much. So low or low right is okay in this case. Now we are moving the cue ball a little bit so that we have a bigger angle. The shot now looks like this: What happens if we play just with low in this case – can we get up table? Well, just let’s find out. In this case, I hit the cue ball just with low and I scratched into the side pocket If I would have hit it a little softer, or with more quality in my draw shot, I could maybe have gone above the side pocket or for sure go above the side pocket But I want to go Towards where my chalk is in this case So in this case, I will play the cue ball with low right So the supporting right English brings me up table again, and I have a perfect shot on the 10 ball. Now so far this wasn’t something special I guess or I bet all of you knew how to play this shot But now comes the interesting part This is the same shot that I had to play with low right to get up table. But now I’m deciding Okay, I don’t play low right and just gonna play it with right spin – no bottom on the cue ball The question is am I now able to go up table? Well, let’s find out As you see I was able to hit the cue ball really soft because I don’t have to add the bottom spin – just rolling cueball with a lot of right spin. So no need to hit the cue ball hard If you want to follow the ball or draw the cue ball back, you always have to hit with a little more pace, but if you add right or left spin you can just roll the cue ball – hit it really soft. Left or right spin is just way more consistent than draw or follow But now the big question is: why can I play the cue ball low right and go up table, and why can I play it with just right and also go up table? Well, there are two big things. First: Imagine a cue ball. Now see we’re hitting low right on the cue ball. If I now move the contact point to the center of the ball, you see how much right spin I’m actually giving and you see it’s not that much. If you hit at the center of the cueball, you can always give the most amount of right or left spin because the area is just bigger in this case. You can go more to the right or the left than if you are hitting low or high on the cue ball. That’s the first case – we can just give more spin to the cue ball. The second thing (and yeah, it’s a really huge topic) is: Throw. I don’t know if you guys ever heard about throw. There are two types of throw – cut-induced throw and spin-induced throw. I’m not gonna talk about throw in this video. The only thing you have to know is: If you add right spin on the cue ball and you hit the object ball, the right spin throws the object ball to the left. That means you can hit the object ball thicker, because the right spin throws the object ball to the left. And if I’m able to hit the object ball thicker in this case, the line that the cue ball travels after contact with the object ball is a different line. And in this case, the cue ball goes a little more to this side. That means I can add more spin so I’m going to throw the cue ball more to the left. that means I can hit thicker – a thicker contact means I’m going this way, and the spin grabs, and that’s why I can play the shot with just right spin. Now my personal opinion is: In my case, I always play this shot with just right spin, because the first thing is: speed control is much easier. The second thing is: you can hit the cue ball softer. So you’re playing pocket speed. So, if you aren’t a hundred percent at the center of the pocket, the ball will still drop because you’re hitting at pocket speed. Those are the two reasons why I prefer to play this ball with right spin instead of low right. And now we even have a bigger angle Many many players would now think “OK. No chance to get up table with a cut on the 9 ball. I’m going to bank the ball and draw it back up table.” But now you see how huge and how powerful this just spin shot is. You can hit the 9 ball so thick and give so much right spin and just play it soft and – you see how far the cue ball goes up table? Yeah, with just hitting this with right spin – no low. In my early years, I always played this shot with low or low right because I had no idea how powerful this spin shot is. And as you see, this is a huge angle and you’re still able to cut the ball in and go just with a soft hit with right spin up table. Now we have to discuss when this just-right-spin ball is effective. In this case, I have a smaller angle and if I roll the cue ball in, the natural path of the cue ball is going forward. So, the right spin won’t work in this case Yeah, you have to hit the cue ball with low or low right. But, the bigger the angle becomes, the more effective the right spin will be, and the easier the shot will become to play just with right spin. As the angle becomes bigger and bigger, you see how the spin that I have to give to the cue ball changes. The 45-degree angle means you can play both variations or combine them – play with low right or just right or a little low and a little right and if you’re over 45 degrees then you will have to add more of the right spin and not add too much low So let’s summarize the whole thing real quick There are some shots where you can play with low, with low and spin or just with spin – depends on the angle. The less angle you have, the more you have to hit low on the cue ball and draw the cue ball. The bigger the angle gets, the easier it is just to play it with spin. Why do we do this? First, speed control is much easier. Second, you can hit the object ball at pocket speed. That means if you’re not hitting dead center in the pocket, the object ball will still drop. Another very important thing is: if you’re hitting low on the cue ball, you will never really know how much low arrives at the object ball, because the low at some point disappears. If you’re hitting left or right spin, the spin doesn’t disappear as fast as low or follow. That means it’s easier to calculate the line that you bounce out of the rail on with spin. Remember – spin doesn’t disappear as fast as low or high. Well, that’s it. If you have any questions, just comment. Yeah, it’s a huge topic with spin and low and throw and all that kind of stuff, but if you have questions – just feel free to ask. Maybe I will make another video about the topic because it’s just a lot of information that I gave you guys. Sorry for that, but I hope you learned something. Don’t forget to Like, don’t forget to subscribe. Leave me a thumbs up, and we will see you at the next lesson. Take care.

100 thoughts on “Pool Lesson | When To Use Spin And Draw

  1. A few people already made me aware that the angles aren't correct. 30° angle is actually a 150° angle, 50° angle is actually a 130° angle and 70° angle is actually 110°. Thanks for the hint, obviously I was a little negligent when I was making the graphics.

    Sorry for that mistake guys 🙂

  2. With such a talent for explaining stuff, I'd love to see videos about CIT and SIT. Especially when you get most CIT/SIT and why. Dr Dave has the videos already but I think you could be able to add a new quality to these topics.

  3. you are awesome sharivari.. I immediately subscribe to your channel. your explanation is as good as a pool coach. can we also request topic as your subscriber?

  4. This is a good video. However, it is important to recognize that the reaction of the cue ball with side spin off the cushions varies tremendously from table to table. Side spin may also react very differently with a new cloth where the ball is skidding off the cushions. On an unfamiliar table, it may be better to use draw more often because the direction of the cue ball is more predictable. It is often a trade off between easier speed control and more predictable cue ball direction.

  5. Good insights. With this common shot, I think most pool players go through the struggle of deciding how much low vs how much right. I always judge it by feel, so it’s good to see how others approach this.

  6. This is gold! I play a lot of 8 ball, and any time I can use less speed and have more control helps. This channel has quickly become my favorite source of instruction. Thank you. And this was not too much info. Best video yet! Thanks again

  7. Somewhere around the 4 minute mark you say you are not going to discuss cut and spin induced throw………….. isnt this exactly based on throw both cut with the draw , and spin with the english ………….. arent they throwing the object balls especially for the one using right hand or outside english ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if you hit that shot hard and into the rail as directed i would bet it is gonna stay on that line and hit the long rail instead of the pocket ,,,,,,, the speed is the key JMO anyways . when you hit that shot with spin and hit it easy enough on a slippery table the object ball will even miss altogether . as with most shots low cue gets the object ball traveling forward much faster which seems to aide the effect of gravity quicker at the pocket because the object ball is rolling forward end over end . THATS JUST BEEN MY EXPERIENCE .

  8. As an avid player who went from a weak A player to a weak B player I do appreciate the info because there is an abundance of squirt on the cue ball and object ball I have struggles with on the simonis cloth so I appreciate any help I can get thanks and I will look at your other videos

  9. Know all this. One of of his shots he almost didn’t make the pocket. As he pulled to far to the left. And didn’t allow the object ball to go center of pocket.

  10. Very good presentation. I really like the way you break down the components , and explain and illustrate the process you are speaking of . Thank you much .

  11. I have to say this is the best pool training video ever man. Explains absolutely everything about the shot the easy way and lot of people can actually understand the physics behind it. Great job on these videos man and great graphics too. Keep it up

  12. Thanks. Even not describing throw. It finally makes sense to me what is happening to the object ball when struck with english.

    Time to go to the pool table and practice.

    Thanks again.

  13. This is the best tutorial I've ever seen. And I've watched many tutorials from VHS, to DVDs, to YouTube, have read several books, as well as asking for advice.

    The one thing I've learned over the years is the best teacher is practice practice practice, so I don't buy "how tos" anymore. But practice practice practice is only the best teacher when you know what to practice and how to practice with quality rather than quantity. That being said, you have well informed and easy to understand content.

    Please keep it up!

  14. Thank You ! This is a great video and explanation! I love how you take the time to explain what is simple to the experts but not to beginners, Easy to understand ! I highly appreciate all the time you out into your videos!!

  15. The combination of the illustrations and playback, especially the fact that you show the cue ball and the contact points are excellent. This is the way I learn, not just from being told, but from having a clear picture in my mind from all aspects. Thanks so much.. !!

  16. I notice the cue extender you have. What brand is it and where did you purchase? I have a 4 inch one but feel I could use a 5 or even six in extender. @sharivari

  17. Thanks so much! Been playing for 40 years and it just changed my game too. That side pocket has always been my nemesis. Your explanation makes perfect sense. Well done! Some other players are now in big trouble!

  18. Wow, incredible video. I love the detail you go into explaining this concept, and the visuals you use are invaluable to the teaching process. Not all pool videos show you exactly where you need to place the cue on the white ball when shooting, or explain how the change in english effects the path of the cue ball as well as the object ball, so thank you for explaining it so well.
    Yes, please make another video going into more detail about spin and throw. You can never go into too much detail in a video or make too many videos on this subject. That just gives me a reason to watch it again and again, LOL 😂. Also, a video on more banking techniques and how throw/spin will effect your banking or kicking at balls would be GREAT!
    I'd love to hear you to make a video just explaining more about exactly how the balls act like gears. That if one ball spins one way the other will spin the opposite direction. Also how the spin on the balls react when hitting a rail. Plus I rarely hear anyone talk about how chalk, dirt, oil, or water effect the balls, table, etc… Could you please make a video going into these things in detail (the way you always do😁) Thanks! Dee😊👍

  19. Always love the videos, Andre. One question, are you about 6 foot 11 inches tall? 😂 Btw, your English is better than about 70% of my native English speaking friends.

  20. can you make a how to improve your masse shot tighter masse to long range masse. thank you for the video was clear sound and I like the graphic with the cue ball it help understand the function I will suggest a power meter to know the speed or the soft/hard stroke. thanks again.

  21. if we give more spin can we adjust the aim? or just aim the right angle. how do the mother ball travel to ball if we use more spin ? sorry for bad english.

  22. Excellent stuff as always

    The 9 being off the rail allows the cue ball spin to take. If the 9 was frozen or just a hair off the rail, it changes the shot.

    Also you can overhit the ball no matter how much spin you put on it which will prevent the cue ball English to perform like you want it to.

    Speed is huge on these shots.

  23. Really enjoyed your video, very well explained and demonstrated. For me the biggest problem with using so much side would be the uncertainty of how much the path of the cue ball will be distorted by the side and feeling confident of consistently making the pot. For this reason I would normally prefer bottom with a dab of right, when possible. But I will be practising your shot first chance I get.

  24. I have trouble with screwing the cue-ball back…. draw as you call it. Mind you I can only use my right hand/arm.

  25. This like many other videos I've seen from Sharivari is top notch pocket billiard instruction. Not only is everything he covers in this video true, but also the video production shows where to hit the cue ball based on it's location in relation to the object ball and we can see the cue ball move and as it moves we can see how the side spin changes. Simply put, this is a damn good video for those who are interested in improving.

  26. Anyone have any advice on using a closed bridge but I always have sweaty hands (I use a glove but sometimes I don't)

  27. @Sharivari How does right spin throw the OB to the left? Right spin on the CB puts left spin on the OB right? So when left spin is applied to a ball, shouldnt that ball be thrown to the right? For example when you hit the CB directly with left spin it goes to the right, correct? So when you hit the CB with right spin and make contact with the OB, the OB gets left spin, correct? So shouldnt the OB get thrown to the right because of the left spin??? Pleeeease someone help me understand this. It makes no sense to me and i really need to understand this. 😩😩

  28. ☺☺☺☺
    I gave up playing pool here's why
    I was very good but I only was the only person that cared if I won (like we all are) if you don't play for cash there's no point

  29. I love all of your videos, very informative.
    In the future could you do a video of top spin? For whatever reason my accuracy of potting balls decreases drastically when I use top spin. My cue stick is leveled as much as possible to the table during my stroke.
    I guess a better question is would top spin induce throw at various angles?

  30. Wow! very learning, very important technic! i really appreciate Sir Sharivari! Thank You! Keep up the good work!… 🙂

  31. This video, omg !!! This is the video that upgrade my game by 40%, I'm more competitive thanks to this video. This help me a lot.

  32. I liked the video very much. I would like to see a video with aiming with different types of spin. Player point of view

  33. To bad – but your graphics showing the 'angle' are very much wrong. The angle depicted by the
    arc shape is well over 90 degrees.

  34. While all of your videos are exceptional, I believe this one and your Cue ball Physics/Learn to control the Cue ball are very
    important for those that truly want to improve their game by understanding why and how the cue ball ends up where it does. Great work! Thank you!

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