Drawing Advice for Students – Asking Pros

Drawing Advice for Students – Asking Pros


Four questions? Four questions. They’re all art related, but they’re for our
beginners. I don’t think I pressed record on it. That would be bad. What mistakes do you constantly see people
making in drawing? Rushing. When I see people drawing… I’ve been teaching eight years now and I’ve
seen so many different kinds of exercises, sketches and drawings and there is a difference
between speed and rushing. Rushing is when they’re doing it not for themselves. They’re sketching and drawing for someone
else and it’s structured, the homework. But if you’re drawing for you, you’re going
to put the time and the focus and the energy into it. But, “Oh my God, my homework is due tomorrow,”
they’ll stay up for hours and they’ll try to bust it out as fast as they can. And so they’re rushing now. And the rushing, you’re not going to really
learn from it. You’re not going to really add any kind of
memory to it as well and the experience is also not as fun. So, over time, that can be very jading as an experience and it has a long-term effect. So that problem of rushing is a part of also
time management as well. So being able to take your time in the moment,
to really invest, to get as much as possible out of it. Not about how good or bad it is, but making
sure the experience is as fun. I saw a wonderful artist’s work just yesterday
that I was giving feedback on. And it is the most common thing, is specializing
in horses, specializing in human bodies, specializing in anything like that and not knowing what
they’re made of. That is the most common one, is that if you’re
going to do a body, it helps to know the anatomy. In fact, it’s almost crucial if you’re going
to try to get any kind of illusion of reality. And the classic craft seems like the kind of
things people want to jump over because they see the finished work. They say, “I think I can do that finished
work.” So they go for the finished work and they
didn’t do all of the work that it takes to make it so that it has authority to it. What mistakes do you constantly see people
make in their drawings? People don’t really do live drawing enough
and study. Studying is important no matter where you
are in your career. It’s like eating your veggies, and that’s
one thing I actually wasn’t doing when I was younger. And now I am paying the price. I’m like, “Okay, I have to go back.” I don’t know about that. Those are great. Oh, thank you. Okay. Yeah, I know the mistakes. I know where all the mistakes are, but that’s
usually what I notice is people don’t have good foundation and they make excuses for
it by saying, “Oh, that’s just my style.” I can tell when somebody genuinely has a style
or they’re trying to cover something up. Yeah. I love that. That’s like my favorite one. “That’s my style.” It’s like, “Cool. Good luck with that style.” I mean, nothing wrong with it but if it’s
not genuine and I can tell that that’s not what it is, you’re trying to lie to me, and
your work is saying something else. Well, I think, most of the time, they’re lying
to themselves. They actually believe. They want to believe that it’s their style,
right? Yeah. Yeah. What mistakes do you see artists make in their
drawings? The most obvious thing is probably
anatomy, but that’s an ongoing process anyway, right? But if you can kind of break it down to something
even more rudimentary or whatever it is, I think the way that they go about starting
their drawings. They start out with this really clean, pristine,
straight and nervous line is what I called it instead of being loose and free and confident. That is always the issue and that the minute
that they don’t get it exactly right, they erase. So instead of just moving through a drawing,
they stop before they even start because they’re not confident. It’s already up here. So that’s the most common mistake is this
where they’re at up here, is that their insecurities and feeling is not right. And, you know, you have to deal with that
even as a seasoned artist, but even more so at the beginning. So I think that’s a big issue. What’s the biggest drawing mistake you see
students making? In drawing, the biggest mistake I see is not
paying attention to how things are connected to one another. So every single thing, like my shirt, even
these seams, there’s all this stitchwork in there. My belts has, like…I actually don’t have
my belt on, but my belt has… You are not wearing any pants under… Yeah, no. I’m just completely pantless. No, there’s all these seams and like everything
has volume to it. So like even the edges on a belt has that
silhouette edge and then the contour line, and everybody seems to just flatten it out
so it looks like a piece of paper. And then the other thing is just ellipsis. Everybody has trouble with the ellipsis. It’s the bane of existence. I think people should just start by making
cylinders over and over again and then when they’re comfortable doing that, move on. But that’s my own philosophy and my students
get very frustrated by that. What mistakes do you constantly see artists
make in drawings? In drawings? Yeah. I think anatomy. I mean, you know that better than me. They’re rushing. For me, as an inker, I have to fix it every
now and then. Even as the inker? Yeah. You fix the drawer… Yeah, because you have to draw too in order
to be a good inker. Some of the new guys, they don’t do a lot
of perspective, like backgrounds. So the old school guys, they know the good
school, which is like do all perspective by hand because that’s the hard way to learn
it. And now they have the programs. Oh, so, artists are using 3D software now? Some of them. Do you feel like that makes it a little too
stiff? Yes. It does? Yes. So, it’s better to know your perspective and
then draw it? Uh-huh, because even if you build like straight
lines with the ruler, you can go in and do it freehand, and that will give you more organic
feel. And it’s like if you see the backgrounds in
real life, you don’t see perfect lines way in the back. It’s kind of like foggy. So it gives more realistic light, you know? So, yeah. The thing that I find commonly is that when
a student is learning how to draw, their habits get in the way the most. If they learned manga before they learned
how to draw the figure, they try to draw the figure with manga eyeballs and manga proportions,
thinking that that’s figure drawing because that’s all they know the figure to be. So it gets really difficult for them to understand
traditional proportions and foundation principles because they want to attach it to this other
thing that they’ve learned as they were growing up. And it’s really hard. It’s like stopping or quitting smoking cigarettes
to try to break the habit of all of those manga traditions. Be more receptive to learning everything and
try not to think that those tools that you’ve already done are the tools you’re always going
to be using. Those were the tools that got you started. Now learn the rest of the tools because it’s
like those are the beginner tools, now level up to the more advanced tools. And that’ll get you anywhere you want to go. Those tools are very limited where the advanced
ones get you the broader range in the industry. What mistakes do you constantly see beginner
artists make in their drawings? One thing I was kind of messing up with a
lot is like anatomy. So one thing that I like to do is a lot of
figure drawing where you would go and like try to draw people live. Definitely drawing the body, drawing the hands,
drawing the feet, you know, it’s important. A lot of people like to focus on the face
or just the eyes, but it’s important to, even like for background, things that aren’t as
much fun to draw, it’s important to practice those things too. He’s brilliant. You’ve been doing this for years? You know your shit and I love it. What mistakes do you constantly see people
making? I see mostly anatomy. Anatomy is really hard. It’s like the number one thing people say. Yeah, because I think it’s really hard for
people to get it. I think another one is gesture. I think people give up really fast on those. Like, “Oh, it’s really hard to control this. Okay. I’m not going to do that.” Okay. What mistakes do you constantly see artists
making in their drawings? In their drawing. I feel like there is not enough drawing. Like… What? No, hold on. Let me rephrase that better! So they just don’t draw enough? Yes, they don’t draw enough. I feel like the foundation, usually, it can
be improved on because a lot of people try to jump into style and painting. But without the drawing foundation, you know,
your painting is gonna look a little wobbly or weak. So I would say practice more and draw from
life more, and I feel like you’re painting will look better. Second question, what booth are you at? My booth is 2046. Okay. That was for my wife actually. Oh, okay. Cool. Sorry. She’s texting me while I’m interviewing. No, it’s all good. I’m a professional. I’m a professional. You’re the best professional. What mistakes do you constantly see artists
make in their drawings? The biggest one is overdetailing and really
getting into the details without understanding what makes the details work, what makes everything
come together. So a lot of it comes back to the foundations. And everyone says, “Oh, the foundation,” but
it’s true. If you don’t know your foundation is all the
stuff you put on top, it’s like, “Oh, that’s a beautiful eye. But why is it three degrees over there and
this one’s three degrees down here?” Or usually it’s something more subtle like
it’s slightly tilted the other way or something. No, no, no. It’s really that far off. Oh, really? Yeah. Or it could be that far off. Oh, wow. Okay. Maybe not actually, but it was like, “Wow,
that’s… Okay, let’s go to the next person,” type of
thing. But, no, I think it’s the details, like just
really rendering and getting into all that because you love to do it, which is great,
but it’s just overdone. What’s the biggest mistake you see people
making in their drawings? Structure, generally, is a huge one. You know, there’s a lot of really quick kind
of paintings nowadays, where it’s kind of like concept art, but it’s not really a concept
for anything because they can’t finish a painting because they lack structure. Bad anatomy and bad inking. Bank inking, do you mean like sloppy? Sloppy, yeah. They just practice making lines. And even though a lot of guys go digitally
today, it’s good to learn how to master how using a brush so that you’re doing it subconsciously
so that you’re not even thinking about it. It just requires practice. The number one mistake I see people using
in their drawings all the time is jumping to details too quickly. They’re getting a little impatient with themselves
and they tend to want to finish the drawing as quickly as they can. But, in doing so, they tend to confuse economy
with structure. They think that they can, by jumping into
the detail stage of a drawing, that they’re finished, when, in fact, they’re really just
putting the cart before the horse. You still need to follow the same form. You still need to follow the same sort of
strategy, the same plan of attack, and I see it all the time, drawings that don’t have
solid value structure, drawings that are very, very detailed, but there’s nothing anchoring
it so that it doesn’t look like it’s actually telling a story. Innumerable examples of that, especially in
school. What are the most common mistakes you see
people making in their drawings? Probably the biggest one is just a lack of
structure. I see a lot, especially digital artists, I
see a lot of beautiful compositions and beautiful color palettes and beautiful everything. And you zoom in a bit closer and you look
at someone’s face and it’s just flat, and it’s really disappointing because so much
work I see that, you know, first glance is great. Second glance is just kind of a letdown. So I wish people would just learn how to get
a bit more of a sculptural feel of their work. Don’t even take a lot, just a bit more, a
bit less smudgy digital work or even smudgy painter work, or smudgy charcoal work and
a bit more structure. Planar? Planar, three dimensional, you know. You don’t have to go full Frazetta or Bridgman. Just a bit more. What mistakes do you constantly see artists
make in their drawings? Most of the time it’s just basic anatomy things,
like knowing the anatomy and then breaking it to bend it to like making more stuff. Like what I do, a lot of the anatomy doesn’t
make sense, man. It’s intentional Yeah. It’s because I’m stretching the anatomy to
exaggerate my characters, you know. But knowing, like going through that process
of learning it properly first to be able to bend and shape it where it still looks right
afterwards is one of the main things I think. Awesome. What’s the biggest mistake you see artists
make in their drawings? The biggest mistake I feel is like just rushing
too much to the details. They just kind of want to rush to the finish
and I can see that and I see that they’re missing the story. They’re missing the feeling. They’re missing the gesture, and over and
over again. That’s why I see just a lot of dead drawings. They’re just missing the life and the energy
because of the lack of sometimes just really observing and looking at people all the time
and paying attention and drawing when you’re not drawing so that you’re… “Hey, wow. Look at that person’s mannerism.” Looks at posture and put it back into that
artwork. But that’s the biggest thing, the mistake
that I see over and over is trying to get to the details too quickly. Yeah. Cool. Hey, guys. In the comments, let me know what you think
are the biggest drawing mistakes you’re making now and what you’re going to do to fix it. You can comment below, get the discussion
going. And stick around. I’ve got two more Asking Pros videos coming
soon. Should I say subscribe? They got to be dumb to not know how to subscribe. We’ll put that in there.

100 thoughts on “Drawing Advice for Students – Asking Pros

  1. I think making mistakes is the most important part of becoming a great artist, the biggest mistake a beginner can make is not learning from their mistakes.

  2. Biggest mistake i ever wound up having is trying to self-teach.. Did so for 10 years and failed miserably because i need the help of another due to my severe difficulty with absorbing knowledge on my own.. And.. I'm a failure because of this..

  3. How the f- do you learn anatomy effectively? I've been learning for almost 2 years and still can't get the hang of it..It's frustrating.

  4. Sanford Greene explains my issue when drawing. I have to get it right. I always try to draw as if the drawing is already finished. I don’t like loosely drawn lines. I don’t like sketching.

  5. i absolutely love how(at least a little) unsure these artists really are with their words

    its like they use the visual medium to convey their ideas better than they could with words

  6. The second guy hit the nail on the head; going for the finished work. I'm guilty of this. I think a lot of young people do this, they reproduce a drawing, sometimes perfectly, they impress their parents and get a lot of praise, they start believing they're great artists. This is a bit like copying a poem from a book and telling yourself you're a great poet. Drawing to me includes the preparation and the ability to create something new.

  7. Biggest mistake for me is rushing. By that I mean having not mastered, or at least understood, the basic shapes such as ellipses, circles, squares, cubes and triangles. I know that I need tutorials and then to slow down to understand the basics. I want to know how to draw literally anything on the second day.

  8. So… fundamentals, fundamentals, fundamentals, don't rush past the fundamentals, don't try to justify your lack of fundamentals, fundamentals, fundamentals, fundamentals, don't take shortcuts around fundamentals, fundamentalsfundamentalsfundamentals, for goodness' sake fundamentals. It's rock solid advice.

  9. The habit of drawing is extremely important, especially in the beginning. But beyond that I think just understanding shapes/forms and perspective in your head really lends itself to exponential growth as an artist in almost all aspects. How you shade something, or how you articulate a line all changes depending on how well you understand the form of it. So while understanding light is it's own thing, understanding shape will directly effect how well you can "explain" that geometry with lighting.

  10. There are no mistakes in art unless you are going for realism or you yourself are not happy with the finished product. Dont let people tell you what is wrong with your art unless you asked for their opinions about it. Be confident and enjoy what you do.

  11. People are making fun of Michael Hayes for shaving himself a chin but he was clearly just demonstrating that detail work alone will not fix a lack of underlying structure.

  12. Oh my god the inker at 6:13 nailed the problem with modern comics. Lack of basic perspective and anatomy skills leading to static flat angle shots.

  13. My biggest mistake rn: issues w concealing gesture and good anatomy, w this mindset m making 10+ gesture/anamy draws per day. PS. I'm calling it Anature

  14. 11:12 i know i am being rude but she looks like chris evans in drag, not in a bad way also sorry in advance

  15. My biggest mistake right now is being so scared of making bad art that I settle for not making any art at all, or rather sticking to familiar albeit uninteresting territory.

  16. As a medical student, I know SOOOOO much in anatomy even which nerve is in between what muscles. So I found learning how to draw human body is easier for me XD

  17. Im not a pro but the bigest mistake i see is people not putting their heart into it, not putting enough effort, not pushing themselves. So its an internal problem more than a technical problem.. if you put effort you will understand the fundamentals faster. Im self taught and all that i have learned its from putting effort and when i watch tutorials i can understand my flaws because i had already practiced and failed now i can improve

  18. My biggest issue that I'm fighting with: Not using references… Like… Feeling that it's bad to stop drawing and find a reference picture when I don't know how something looks. Often I redo some elements few times and it still looks bad. It takes 10 seconds to google the element I'm drawing and just study it. I really don't get what's my problem with it, but it feels uncomfortable to stop drawing to find these 😛 It feels like searching for reference takes additional time and I don't want to waste time, but in reality having a reference speeds up the drawing and just helps to avoid mistakes. Also you don't learn stuff when drawing from head, you just use what you already have in your head.

  19. baloney!!…Jack Kirby had no concept of anatomy. a disjointed video presentation on the advice to students. i'm assuming these are all comic book artists….lol.

  20. My biggest mistake is being afraid to (learn to) draw. I'm a graphical designer, i can design brochures and magazines, graphic charters, logos, packaging etc. adequately, but to be honest i can't draw for shit. I had some practice in school but i never got far. I'd like to fix that deficiency and be able to make my own illustrations but i'm intimidated by the hard start and the uphill battle that's ahead.

  21. Ide like to add my two cents on the mistakes I know are made way to often and these are things that I absolutely needed to be able to take my art in the right direction. For me it's the big shapes, the construction, the gesture. I was born somewhat a natural artist in the sense I could always draw and through he'll or high water I would finish a piece and eventually make it look right(3 erasers later). It wasn't until I humbled myself and went back to the fundamentals. THE BIG FORMS, THE GESTURE, THE CONSTRUCTION..Anatomy, proportion or details does not serve your art in absence of these things no matter what anyone thinks

  22. I'm coming really late to this party, but these artists are SO absolutely correct and the issues they are highlighting (many of them at the same, anatomy, structure, people just not drawing enough) could apply to artists of any genre…even those drawing/painting traditional art. EXCELLENT video!

  23. I feel like getting good at art is impossible, but i keep doing art and getting better ar it. I guess being a success in art is impossible to.

  24. We have extremely bad teachers. I began watching this series of interviews to learn something and I started feeling like they attacked younger artists for not having insert list of crap here but I went through hell and back to find good teachers that were actually just failed artists that had no choice than to get into education.
    Hell, I even went through art university and came out with no idea on how to finish a drawing/painting and a feeling of general defeat. There seems to be a lot of bad information everywhere, a lot of pretense from artists who are visible, not a lot of good teachers and the youth is forced to change into something they hate so they reach a point where they hate their passion. The world is moving too fast for us to keep hearing that we need to invest 30 years in a freakin' drawing when people have careers on bad fan art.
    The world of art just showed me it's a cannibalistic group that will pound on those starting out so they give up before they become competition. Again, people have careers on bad fan art but I can't feel good enough to even finish a painting and everyone around me tells me I need to keep doing shit that makes me miserable.

  25. 虽然直接翻译的中文字幕不是很恰当,加上自己的英文不好,但是还是学到了很多…谢谢你的视频❤️

  26. Honestly, I really struggle with giving up on pieces before I really know if I should, or before I realize I can fix it

  27. A year ago my biggest mistake was not drawing enough and rushing. Over that year I studied you along with other artist. Now I've been able to draw shapes to create my characters. I'm understanding gestures more. Now my goal is to have my own style without it being an excuse.

  28. The problem with this video and the advice given by these artists is that it gives the impression that to be a "pro", or a true artist for that matter, one has to create according to certain rules—and this case it usually means "realism". Art is about individual expression, it is a way of life which goes much deeper than merely creating things accurately or not.

  29. 너무 좋은 컨텐츠인데 한국에서 그림을 그리는 학생들도 이걸 꼭 봤으면 좋겠습니다.
    어린 친구들일수록 자신에게 거짓말하는게 너무 심해요. 이게 내 스타일이다. 지적받을 게 아니다. 차라리 인정하고 개선해 나아가 더 좋은 스타일을 만들어내는것. 이게 진짜 공감가는 부분이에요.

  30. I make all these mistakes that these great artists have talked about at once,
    not individually, or consecutively.
    All and all at once. So I think that's a kind of art too.
    Greetings from shortly before the Bavarian mountains

    Woifi

  31. Thank you so much for this video, im drawing for some years now, but i realized i missed basics cuz i thought i learned them enough, but not enough to actually be able to put them in my works. Im lacking anatomy of course, gesture, flow in finished inked pieces, and structure is a big problem also. When i draw i can't draw properly some things, like clothes, so i kinda make it smooth and flat. So im gonna make a lot of abservational sketches to understand the volume of things.

  32. My biggest mistake is letting my emotions and problems in life invading my brain when i'm drawing. Have no patience, have rage issues, and my lines is hard and edgy. I can't be a soft person even when im drawing

  33. The thing about manga And anime type of “figure” was a bit off. In reality manga and anime are just like American comics.. based off of reality only simplified or exaggerated in some areas. The reason people have an issue growing out of the shell of anime and manga is because they have teachers that haven’t told them that it’s okay, they have teachers that judge or make anime and manga styled drawing seem like they require less talent or are inferior (like I did). And the GOLDEN RULE give them a supplement before you give them a critique tell them that anime and manga forms are just simplified versions and provide them with a true anatomy guideline.

  34. the problem i mostly encounter with those "pro artist's"
    they criticize themself but also make sure not to flatter someone …

  35. When artists say 'anatomy' don't let it get over your head. It's just another way of saying, when you draw something make sure you know the characteristics and qualities of what you are drawing, this applies to anything and once you think about it, it becomes apparent. Also, this sort of art applies more to things which are detailed drawings. For example, compare the difference in the detail of a face drawn in a portrait, and the detail of a face drawn in a full body shot. Then compare the detail of a full body shot of a character in focus, to the detail of someone smoking a cigarette background of your frame/picture. Learning exactly what something looks like will help a lot with detail, but you don't need to spend 100 hours drawing and studying hands, then 100 hours on ears, then 100 hours on abdomens etc to create a great looking super hero.

  36. i think my mistake is saying that I love to draw but only watch youtube videos of people drawing. Instead of doing it myself. thus no improvement. I don't even have the first step correct. Drawing.

  37. The biggest mistake in drawing is when you cant draw something so you hide it or draw it from one angle that you can do it instead of learning how to do what u want.

  38. I am genuinely thrilled to find this treasure. Now, excuse me while I smash the mediocre dreamers who are too proud to start from the downright illustration basics.

  39. 와 미국 코믹콘은 수준자체가 다르네. 한국 코믹콘은 일본 카툰화식으로 그리는 아마추어 작가들의 그림이 보이는 한계가 많은데 전반적으로 미국 코믹콘은 그림 수준이 높네

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